Tony Gerdeman and Tom Orr go back and forth discussing what they are interested in seeing during fall camp on defense for the Ohio State Buckeyes.

The fellas talk about expectations for Zach Harrison and Jack Sawyer, what kind of contribution will the Buckeyes get from linebacker Palaie Gaoteote, the concerns in the secondary, and much, much more.

You can watch the podcast on YouTube below or listen via the Spreaker player here.

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